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My Time Isn’t Free: Why Equity Only Offers Get a ‘No Thanks!’ — A Developer’s Guide to Startup Equity Negotiation.
Remember that Reddit thread that blew up? The junior dev offered a measly 15% equity for being the only tech person at a startup, with no salary to boot? Yeah, jaws dropped. The internet collectively face-palmed. It felt like watching a slow-motion train wreck of undervaluation. Are you, as a developer, secretly worried you might be next? Are you wondering if that exciting startup opportunity is actually a cleverly disguised exploitation trap?

Not interested in working for free
Remember that Reddit thread that blew up? The junior dev offered a measly 15% equity for being the only tech person at a startup, with no salary to boot? Yeah, jaws dropped. The internet collectively face-palmed. It felt like watching a slow-motion train wreck of undervaluation. Are you, as a developer, secretly worried you might be next? Are you wondering if that exciting startup opportunity is actually a cleverly disguised exploitation trap?
At Cyberoni, we get it. We understand the blood, sweat, and late-night coding sessions you pour into building the tech backbone of any company. We empower businesses with tools to streamline their operations and optimize their resources — and that includes recognizing and fairly valuing top tech talent like you. Because let’s be honest, without skilled developers, most startups are just fancy PowerPoint presentations.
This isn’t just another dry, legalistic breakdown of stock options. This is your survival guide to navigating the murky waters of startup equity. We’re going to break down exactly what startup equity really means, why that 15% offer was likely an insult, and arm you with the knowledge to confidently negotiate for what you deserve. Stop leaving money (and your future!) on the table. Let’s make sure you’re not the next developer Reddit is rallying behind — for all the wrong reasons.
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II. Understanding Startup Equity: The Basics — It’s Not Just “Free Money”
Okay, let’s demystify this whole “startup equity” thing. It’s not some magical unicorn dust that automatically turns into a Lambo overnight. Startup equity, in its simplest form, represents ownership in the company. Think of it like slices of a pie. When you get equity, you’re getting a slice (or a percentage) of that pie. The bigger your slice, the bigger your potential piece of the pie if the company becomes successful (gets acquired, goes public, etc.).
Usually, for employees, this equity comes in the form of stock options. These options give you the right to buy shares of company stock at a predetermined price (the “strike price”) in the future. This strike price is usually set at or around the company’s current valuation when you receive the options.
Why Equity Instead of Just Cold, Hard Cash?
Startups, especially in their early stages, are often strapped for cash. They might not be able to offer you the hefty salaries that established tech giants can. So, they use equity as a powerful tool for a few key reasons:
Attracting Talent on a Budget: Equity allows startups to attract talented individuals who believe in their vision, even if they can’t pay top-of-the-market salaries right away. It’s a bet on future potential.
Aligning Incentives: Equity creates a powerful incentive for employees to work hard and contribute to the company’s success. If the company does well, everyone with equity potentially benefits financially. You’re not just an employee; you become a stakeholder.
Preserving Cash: Giving equity instead of a higher salary helps startups conserve their precious cash runway, allowing them to invest in growth, product development, and other critical areas.
Types of Equity (Briefly): Common vs. Preferred
You might hear about different types of stock, like common stock and preferred stock. For most employees, especially early-stage hires, you’ll likely be granted common stock options. Preferred stock is usually reserved for investors and founders and comes with certain preferential rights (like getting paid back first in case of a liquidation event). For now, just understanding the basics of stock options on common stock is crucial for most developers.
Vesting: Earning Your Equity Over Time
Startup equity isn’t usually given to you all at once on day one. It typically vests over time. This means you earn your equity gradually, usually over a period of 4 years, with a cliff — often a year. A common vesting schedule is 4-year vesting with a 1-year cliff.
Vesting Schedule: The timeline over which your equity becomes fully yours. For example, with 4-year vesting, you might vest 25% of your equity each year.
Cliff: A waiting period before any of your equity vests. If you leave before the cliff (e.g., one year), you typically forfeit all your unvested equity. If you make it past the cliff, you usually vest a chunk of equity all at once (e.g., the first year’s worth) and then continue vesting periodically after that.
Vesting schedules are in place to protect the company and incentivize employees to stick around and contribute long-term.Dilution: Your Slice Can Get Smaller
This is a critical concept to understand, especially in the context of that Reddit thread. Dilution happens when the company issues new shares of stock. This can happen when they raise funding rounds, grant more equity to new employees, or issue shares for various other reasons. When new shares are issued, the total “pie” gets bigger, but if you don’t get more slices, your existing slice becomes a smaller percentage of the overall pie. This is dilution.

Disappointed in equity dilution
Imagine you own 10% of a company. If the company issues a bunch of new shares and your ownership percentage drops to 5%, your equity has been diluted. It’s still equity, but it represents a smaller proportion of the company. Dilution is a natural part of the startup journey, but it’s important to be aware of it and understand how future funding rounds might impact your equity stake.
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III. Is 15% Equity a Rip-Off?
Let’s get back to that Reddit post, the one that sparked outrage across the developer community. Here’s the gist: a junior developer was offered a position as the sole technical person at a very early-stage startup. The offer? 15% equity. No salary. Just equity. Fifteen percent.
The Reddit community’s reaction was swift and decisive: massive red flag. Run. Don’t walk. Run away. Why the near-unanimous condemnation? Let’s break it down:
Unpaid Labor & High Risk: Working for no salary is already a huge risk, especially for a junior developer who likely needs to cover living expenses. You’re essentially working for free, hoping that the equity will eventually be worth something. Startups are inherently risky ventures — most fail. Betting your livelihood on a high-risk gamble with no immediate compensation is a tough pill to swallow.
Sole Developer = Critical Role: Being the sole technical person is an incredibly demanding and critical role, especially in the early stages. You’re not just writing code; you’re likely building the entire product from the ground up, making key technical decisions, and carrying the entire technical burden. This is not a junior-level responsibility, and it deserves significant compensation.
Idea vs. Execution (Developers Are the Execution): “Ideas are cheap, execution is everything.” This is a common saying in the startup world, and it’s especially true in tech. The founders might have a brilliant idea, but without someone to build it, it’s just an idea. Developers are the ones who bring the idea to life, who turn vision into reality. In this scenario, the developer is the execution engine. Undervaluing the execution is a recipe for disaster (and unfairness).
15% of Nothing is Still Nothing (Current Valuation): At a very early stage, pre-funding, a startup’s valuation is often close to zero, or at least very speculative. 15% of a company with no revenue, no product, and no funding is, practically speaking, 15% of very little. The equity’s potential future value is the only thing that matters, but that future is highly uncertain.
Lack of Funding = Red Flag: If the startup can’t even afford to pay a junior developer a basic salary, it raises serious questions about their financial stability and their ability to succeed. It suggests they may be severely underfunded, or worse, unwilling to invest in talent.
Are There Ever Scenarios Where 15% Equity Could Be Okay? (Rare, and Probably Not This One)
Let’s be fair. There might be extremely rare situations where a higher equity percentage, even with a lower salary (or temporarily no salary), could be considered, but these are exceptions, not the rule, and almost certainly don’t apply to the Reddit scenario:Founders with Deep Pockets & Significant Personal Investment: If the founders are personally wealthy and are heavily investing their own capital into the startup, and are taking a similar level of risk and low/no salary themselves, it might be a slightly different calculation. But even then, for a sole developer, 15% with no salary is still pushing it.
Developer is also a Co-Founder (in Reality, Not Just Title): If the developer is truly a co-founder, involved in strategic decisions, business planning, and not just brought in as a hired gun, the equity conversation changes. But in the Reddit case, the person was clearly being hired as an employee, not a co-founder.
Exceptional Circumstances & Short-Term Arrangement (Highly Unlikely): Maybe, maybe, in some incredibly unusual situation, for a very short, defined period, with a clear path to salary and more reasonable equity later, a very experienced developer with a pre-existing relationship with the founders might consider a heavily equity-weighted deal. But this is still incredibly risky and rare.

I’m doing all of the building for 15%?
Bottom line: For a sole developer, especially a junior one, being offered 15% equity with no salary at an early-stage startup is almost always a massive undervaluation and a significant red flag. It screams “we don’t value tech talent” and “we’re hoping to get someone to work for free on the off chance we become successful.”
So, 15% for a sole developer? Probably highway robbery. But how do you actually figure out what is a fair equity stake? There’s no magic formula, and it’s definitely not an exact science, but there are key factors to consider to get you in the right ballpark and empower you to negotiate effectively.
Think of it like this: you’re not just asking for a percentage; you’re asking for a percentage that reflects your contribution, risk, and the potential upside you’re helping to create.
Here are the major factors to weigh:
A. Your Role & Contribution: Are You a Cog or the Engine?
Founder, Co-founder, Early Employee, or Later Hire? This is HUGE. Founders and very early employees (think the first few hires) typically get significantly larger equity stakes because they are taking the most risk and are instrumental in shaping the company from the ground up. Equity percentages generally decrease as the company grows and becomes less risky (and hires more people). Later hires, while still valuable, usually receive smaller equity grants compared to the OG team.
Sole Technical Person or Part of a Larger Team? Again, critical. If you’re the only developer, or one of the first few, your equity should reflect that outsized responsibility. Being the sole tech architect, builder, and problem-solver is immensely valuable, especially in the early days. Being one of 20 developers on a mature team is a different story.
Criticality of Your Skills: Are you a generalist developer, or do you possess highly specialized, in-demand skills that are crucial to the startup’s core technology or competitive advantage? Niche expertise, especially in areas like AI, blockchain, cybersecurity, etc., can command higher equity.
(Think about how much it would cost them to hire a team of freelancers or consultants to build what you are building. Your value is significant.)
B. Startup Stage & Funding: Pre-Seed Chaos vs. Series C Stability (Relatively)
Pre-seed, Seed, Series A, B, C…? The stage of funding dramatically impacts equity. Pre-seed and Seed stages are the riskiest but offer the highest equity potential. Think of it like getting in on the ground floor (or even before the floor is built!). As the company raises subsequent rounds (Series A, B, C, etc.), it becomes less risky, but the equity percentages offered to new hires typically decrease. A Series C startup is generally less risky than a pre-seed startup, but your equity upside might also be proportionally smaller.
Has the Startup Raised Funding? How Much? Valuation? Funding is validation and fuel. A startup that has successfully raised a significant seed round or Series A has de-risked itself somewhat compared to a bootstrapped pre-seed venture. Knowing the valuation is also crucial. 1% of a company valued at $1 million is very different from 1% of a company valued at $10 million. Don’t just focus on the percentage; understand what percentage of what you’re getting.
Burn Rate & Runway: Is the Clock Ticking? “Burn rate” is how quickly the startup is spending its cash. “Runway” is how long they can survive at that burn rate before running out of money (or needing to raise more). A startup with a short runway and high burn rate is riskier. If they run out of cash, your equity could become worthless. Ask about their financial situation (within reason) and try to gauge their runway.
C. Industry & Market: Software is King (Usually)
Software-Heavy Startups Value Tech Talent More: In today’s economy, software is eating the world. Startups that are fundamentally software companies (SaaS, platforms, apps, etc.) should inherently understand and value tech talent. Their entire business model often hinges on the quality of their technology and the developers who build it. Non-tech-focused startups might undervalue tech roles.
Competitive Landscape: Blue Ocean or Bloodbath? Is the startup operating in a brand new, relatively uncontested market (“blue ocean”) or a crowded, hyper-competitive space (“red ocean”)? Blue ocean opportunities can have higher upside potential but also more uncertainty. Red ocean markets might be more predictable but also harder to gain traction in. This indirectly impacts the overall risk and potential reward associated with your equity.
D. Your Experience & Negotiation Power: Know Your Worth, Be Ready to Walk
Junior vs. Senior Developer: Experience does matter, but even junior developers deserve fair compensation. Senior developers with proven track records and in-demand skills naturally have more leverage to negotiate for higher equity. However, don’t let “junior” status be used to justify ridiculously low equity offers.
Your Ability to Negotiate: Don’t Be a Doormat. Negotiation is a skill. Research industry standards (we’ll get to resources in the next section!), understand your value, and be prepared to confidently state your case. Don’t be afraid to push back on lowball offers or ask for clarification on anything that seems unclear. And crucially…
Be Prepared to Walk Away: This is your ultimate leverage. If the equity offer is truly unfair, the terms are unreasonable, or you get a bad feeling about the founders’ approach to compensation, be willing to walk away. There are many startups out there. Don’t get stuck in a situation where you feel undervalued and resentful from day one.
E. Founders’ Contribution & Risk: It’s Not Just About You (But Mostly It Is, Tech-Wise)
Founders’ Contribution: Idea & Vision (Valuable, But Not Enough). Developer’s Contribution: Execution & Building (Indispensable). Yes, founders have the initial idea, the business acumen, and take risks. Acknowledge that. But in a tech startup, the developer’s ability to execute on that idea is paramount. Without you building it, their idea remains just an idea. Don’t let them overvalue the idea and undervalue your execution skills. A great idea with terrible execution is worthless. A decent idea with exceptional execution can be a rocket ship.

Equal Split
V. Negotiating Your Equity: From “Deer in Headlights” to Deal Closer — Become a Negotiation Ninja
Negotiating equity can feel intimidating, especially if you’re new to the startup world. But it’s a crucial conversation to have, and it’s your right to advocate for yourself. Here’s your negotiation toolkit:
1. Research Industry Standards: Arm Yourself with Data — Knowledge is Power
Holloway’s Guide to Equity Compensation: Seriously, read this: https://www.holloway.com/g/equity. It’s a comprehensive, well-respected resource on startup equity, covering everything from basics to negotiation strategies. Understand typical equity ranges for your role, experience level, and startup stage.
Industry Reports & Salary Surveys: Look for reports from companies like Carta, Option Impact, and Radford. These often provide data on equity benchmarks and compensation trends in the startup world. While some of these reports might be behind paywalls, you can often find summaries and insights online.
Glassdoor & Levels.fyi (Caveat Emptor): These sites can provide some data points on salaries and equity, but take them with a grain of salt. Data can be self-reported and may not always be fully accurate. Use them as directional indicators, not gospel.
Talk to Other Developers: Network! Connect with other developers who have startup experience and ask (discreetly and respectfully) about their equity experiences and what they consider to be reasonable ranges.
2. Don’t Be Afraid to Ask (Directly & Clearly): Be Bold, Be Direct
“What is the typical equity range for someone in this role and at this stage of the company?” This is a perfectly reasonable and direct question to ask the founders or hiring manager. Gauge their response. Are they transparent and willing to discuss it openly, or do they become evasive and uncomfortable? Transparency is a good sign. Evasiveness is a red flag.
State Your Desired Equity Percentage (Based on Your Research): Once you’ve done your research and assessed the factors we discussed in Section IV, come up with a reasonable equity range you’re aiming for. Don’t just pull a number out of thin air; justify it based on your contribution, risk, and industry benchmarks. For example: “Based on my experience as a sole full-stack developer at this stage, and considering industry standards, I’m looking for equity in the range of X% to Y%.”
3. Negotiate the Vesting Schedule (Within Reason): It’s Not Just About the Percentage
Standard 4-Year Vesting with 1-Year Cliff is Typical: This is the most common vesting structure, and it’s generally considered fair. Trying to negotiate significantly shorter vesting periods might be a red flag to the startup (suggesting you’re not committed long-term).
Negotiate the Cliff (Potentially): In some cases, you might be able to negotiate a shorter cliff (e.g., 6 months instead of a year), especially if you have significant experience or are taking on a very critical role. But focus on the overall equity percentage first.
Acceleration Clauses (More Advanced): For more senior roles, you might explore negotiating acceleration clauses, which can accelerate your vesting in certain events like an acquisition. But this is less common for junior to mid-level developers.
4. Get it in Writing! (No Handshake Deals): Paper Trails are Your Friend
Equity Grants Should Be Formally Documented: Once you agree on equity terms, make absolutely sure they are documented in a formal equity grant agreement. Don’t rely on verbal promises or handshake deals. Get it in writing, reviewed by legal counsel if possible (especially for significant equity stakes).
Understand the Legal Documents: Read the equity grant agreement carefully and understand all the terms, conditions, and legal jargon. If anything is unclear, ask for clarification or seek legal advice.
5. Seek Legal Advice (Optional but Recommended, Especially for Large Stakes): Protect Your Future Self
For Significant Equity, Consider a Lawyer: If you’re being offered a substantial equity stake (e.g., 1% or more, especially at an early stage), it’s wise to have a lawyer review the equity grant agreement and advise you on the legal implications. Legal fees can be an investment in protecting your potential future wealth.

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6. Beyond Equity: Negotiate the Whole Package (Especially Early Stage): Look Beyond Just the Shares
Salary, Benefits, and Path to Future Compensation: Especially at early stages, you might need to negotiate for a fair overall compensation package, not just equity. If the salary is lower than market rate due to the equity component, ensure it’s still livable and discuss a clear path to salary increases as the company raises funding or becomes profitable.
Discuss Future Salary Milestones: Ask about the startup’s plan for increasing salaries as they grow and secure more funding. Get clarity on when and how you can expect your salary to become more competitive. The Reddit thread mentioned the developer asking about salary increases “down the line” — this is a smart question to ask upfront.
VI. Red Flags to Watch Out For: Equity Dealbreakers — When to Say “HELL NO!”
Beyond just low percentages, there are certain behaviors and situations that should raise serious alarm bells when discussing startup equity. These are equity red flags — dealbreakers that might signal a toxic environment, unrealistic promises, or simply a lack of respect for your contribution:
1. Unwillingness to Discuss Equity Transparently: Secrecy is a Red Flag If the founders are evasive, uncomfortable, or refuse to discuss equity details openly and honestly, that’s a major red flag. Legitimate startups should be willing to have transparent conversations about equity and how it’s being distributed. Secrecy and opacity are usually signs of something fishy.
2. Downplaying the Developer’s Role & Overemphasizing the “Idea”: Idea People Need Execution People We touched on this earlier. If the founders constantly harp on their “amazing idea” but downplay the crucial role of the technical team in actually building the product, be wary. It suggests they may not truly understand or value the technical execution, which is the lifeblood of a tech startup.
3. Vague Promises & Lack of Clear Agreements: Vague Promises = Empty Promises “We’ll take care of you later,” “You’ll be rich when we IPO,” “We’ll figure out the details later.” Run away from vague promises and lack of clear, written agreements. Equity grants should be formally documented, with specific percentages, vesting schedules, and legal terms clearly outlined. Vagueness is a recipe for disappointment and potential exploitation.
4. Pressure to Accept Low Equity Without Negotiation: Don’t Be Bullied “This is a standard offer,” “Take it or leave it,” “We have other developers lined up.” Pressure tactics to force you to accept a low equity offer without negotiation are a huge red flag. A fair startup should be open to reasonable negotiation and understand that attracting top talent requires competitive compensation, including equity.
5. No Clear Business Plan or Path to Revenue (or Just Vague “Growth”): Show Me the Money (Plan) If the startup can’t articulate a clear business model, revenue strategy, or path to profitability (beyond just “growth” and “users”), be skeptical about the long-term value of their equity. Equity is only worth something if the company becomes successful, and success requires a viable business plan and a path to generating revenue. Ask tough questions about their business model and financial projections.

No thank you!
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VII. Conclusion: Empower Yourself, Know Your Worth, and Code Your Own Future (Don’t Let Others Code It For You) — You Are Indispensable!
Let’s Put This in Perspective: Would You Ask a Builder to Build Your House for 15% of the Potential Future Sale Price?
Think about it. Imagine you wanted to build a house. Would you walk up to a skilled builder and say, “Hey, I’ve got this amazing idea for a house! It’s going to be incredible! I can offer you 15% of the potential future sale price of this house, if it sells for a profit, years down the line. Oh, and no upfront payment or salary while you’re building it. Just the 15% potential future cut. Sound good?”
Any sane builder would laugh you out of the room (or maybe suggest you need a reality check). Building a house requires immense skill, hard work, and time. Builders expect to be paid for their labor, materials, and expertise — and rightfully so. No one expects a builder to work for free based on the hope of a future sale.
Yet, startups often expect developers — the builders of their digital products — to do just that, or something very close to it, with ridiculously low equity offers. And here’s the kicker: houses are far more likely to sell and retain value than most startups are to succeed! Real estate, while not guaranteed, is a much more established and predictable market than the volatile world of startups. Startup success rates are notoriously low. So, the risk for the developer accepting low equity is actually higher than the risk for a builder getting paid for building a house.
And would you trust a builder you weren’t even paying properly? Probably not to build your dream home. Similarly, startups that undervalue their technical talent risk attracting less committed or less skilled developers, ultimately jeopardizing their own success.
This house builder analogy perfectly illustrates how fundamentally unfair and unreasonable offers like 15% equity for a sole developer truly are. It’s time to stop accepting these exploitative deals and demand the fair compensation and equity you deserve.

What do you call working for free?
Developers, you are the architects of the digital world. Your skills are in high demand, and your contribution is the foundation upon which many startups are built. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise, and definitely don’t let anyone undervalue your worth, especially when it comes to startup equity. Remember, that 15% offer? Let it be a stark reminder of what not to accept. Know that your skills are worth far more than a pittance of equity that doesn’t reflect your true contribution.
Understanding startup equity isn’t just about getting “rich quick” (though that’s a nice bonus if it happens!). It’s about understanding your value, your risk, and your potential upside. It’s about having a seat at the table, sharing in the success you help create, and building a future where your contributions are fairly recognized and rewarded. You are not just implementing someone else’s dream; you are building the dream. Your code is the foundation. Your execution is the engine. Remember, they have the idea, but you do the work. And that work is incredibly valuable. Don’t let them treat you like you’re easily replaceable. Your specific skills, your understanding of the codebase, your commitment — these are not easily replicated. Know your leverage and don’t be afraid to use it.
Don’t be the developer in the Reddit thread who gets offered a pittance of equity and no salary. Arm yourself with knowledge, do your research, negotiate confidently, and be prepared to walk away from unfair offers. There are startups out there that do value tech talent, that do offer fair equity, and that do understand that developers are not just cogs in a machine, but the engines of innovation.
And speaking of empowering businesses and optimizing resources… at Cyberoni, we’re building tools to help companies operate more efficiently and fairly — because we believe that fair resource allocation, including equitable compensation for talented individuals like you, is essential for sustainable growth and success. (Okay, subtle plug over!)
Now, it’s your turn. What are your startup equity experiences? Have you ever been offered a deal that felt too good to be true (or too bad to be real)? Share your stories, questions, and insights in the comments below. Let’s learn from each other and build a more equitable future for developers in the startup world